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Lusciious · Jan 31, 2010, 12:54 PM // 12:54

A few questions regarding Old school items .

Why do people pay so much for these items ?

Could someone give me an example of one and compare it with a current one ?

How can you differentiate an old school item from a normal one ?

Pursh · Jan 31, 2010, 01:53 PM // 13:53

An oldschool item has no inscription slot, whereas a "normal" item has one.

Dzjudz · Jan 31, 2010, 01:56 PM // 13:56

Old school usually refers to items from prophecies and nightfall, dropping without inscription slots. These are rare to get with perfect inherent mods (like 15^50). Sometimes people use it to refer to items that don't drop or drop extremely rarely (like req7 or req8 items from these campaigns).

Arduin · Jan 31, 2010, 01:59 PM // 13:59

With the release of Nightfall, Anet introduced inscriptions to fully mod a weapon. Items that drop in Prophecies, Factions, UW and FoW to date don't have an inscriptions slot, meaning the inherent mod can't be changed.

The chance of getting a 'perfect' 15^50 inherent mod on say a Prophecies Mursaat Hammer is small. People will gave good money for such a weapon, although it is in no means better than any given hammer from Nightfall, with a ''Strength and Honor'' Inscription added.

Bow with inscription and 'oldschool' bow.

Lusciious · Jan 31, 2010, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Right . If there isn't any difference, why would people pay 1500e + 10arms (theres an offer for a q8 crystalline old school in high end) for an oldschool ? when you can buy the normal one for much lesser ? Do values of old school items increase ?

Pleikki · Jan 31, 2010, 03:03 PM // 15:03

Oldschool is mostly used for item Which is no longer possible to get

As for Non inscriable Crystallines And r8 crystallines, those are no longer possible get

you can get inscriable r9-13 ones tho..

And ppl like me. and collectors. Dont wanna use any inscriable items, and only non inscriable (oldschool) and are willing pay 10 x price of inscriable one for non inscriable version of same item. Its just for Nostalgic reasons, and theyre kind of cooler.

Hope u understood someting from what i said

bsoltan · Jan 31, 2010, 03:04 PM // 15:04

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Originally Posted by Lusciious

Right . If there isn't any difference, why would people pay 1500e + 10arms (theres an offer for a q8 crystalline old school in high end) for an oldschool ? when you can buy the normal one for much lesser ? Do values of old school items increase ?

Because they're not buying it for the stats of the item, they're buying it for it's rarity.

The chance of getting X item with an inscription slot and putting a perfect mod on it is much much greater than the chance of getting that item with the same mod that isn't an inscription. Due to this rarity the price is much higher.

The people that buy these items are usually collectors and it is very possible that there is only one req8 old school Crystaline Sword with that mod still floating around and that is why people want it.

Eragon Zarroc · Jan 31, 2010, 03:29 PM // 15:29

1.they are rare and don't drop anymore

2. They are req. 8 and non-inscribable

3. all new stuff have inscriptions and usually req. 9 or higher

Arduin · Jan 31, 2010, 03:31 PM // 15:31

So we got

Oldschool stuff that doesn't drop anymore (req 7 and unconditionals)
Oldschool stuff that still drops
Newschool stuff featuring the inscription system

With only the unconditionals being better because they haven't got a downside, but otherwise everything is basically the same.

Right?

Homeri · Jan 31, 2010, 03:37 PM // 15:37

+ oldschool items look so much cooler without those ''inscription'' words continued with like "Strength and Honor"

Pleikki · Jan 31, 2010, 04:42 PM // 16:42

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Originally Posted by Arduin

So we got

Oldschool stuff that doesn't drop anymore (req 8 and unconditionals)
Oldschool stuff that still drops
Newschool stuff featuring the inscription system

With only the unconditionals being better because they haven't got a downside, but otherwise everything is basically the same.

Right?

Yeah except r8 Do still drop. r7 dont

And Yes, theyre basically same for use, except r7 weapons are useful for some builds etc..

Lusciious · Jan 31, 2010, 10:13 PM // 22:13

but others wouldnt know you have an old school item if you dont say so right ?

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+ oldschool items look so much cooler without those ''inscription'' words continued with like "Strength and Honor"

how long do you spend admiring at your old school weapons ? lol

take_me · Jan 31, 2010, 10:32 PM // 22:32

+ most good skins only come "oldschool", so good inherent mods make them worth A LOT in some cases.

Lusciious · Jan 31, 2010, 10:52 PM // 22:52

How/who determines how much an old school item should be worth ?

Yawgmoth · Feb 01, 2010, 05:30 PM // 17:30

I'm not a fan of overusing the word 'oldschool' to describe just about every non-insc weapon. Instead I like to call them *Original* rares.
For example an Original perfect +30/+10 (vs Fire) Magmas Shield is a true masterpiece that's very appealing to collectors but there's nothing 'original' about an identical one that's inscribable - someone just spent 5k on mods and made it himself.

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How/who determines how much an old school item should be worth ?

Value of _everything_ is obviously based on how much people are willing to pay for the item.
It's all about supply and demand, in case of some oldschool rarities the supply can be extremelly low since many don't drop anymore or aren't farmed anywhere as much as they were 4 years ago.

Lusciious · Feb 01, 2010, 10:20 PM // 22:20

how would you know if there is supply of it in game ? or if there is a high/low demand for it ?

Pleikki · Feb 02, 2010, 05:16 AM // 05:16

From seeing if other ppl sell/buy em and farm those areas, if your intrested in knowing some "oldschool" item value, u should ask from the Price check corner.

Lusciious · Feb 02, 2010, 09:32 AM // 09:32

If they're old school, they don't drop anymore so what do you mean by

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and farm those areas

?

Dzjudz · Feb 02, 2010, 12:09 PM // 12:09

Have you read your own thread? Only r7 don't drop any more. r8 and uninscribables still drop.

Lusciious · Feb 02, 2010, 12:21 PM // 12:21

so you can still get old school items ? o.o i don't get this -.-

Jan 31, 2010, 12:54 PM // 12:54	#1
Lusciious Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: I'm from Singapore but i live in Shanghai ATM Guild: Order of [Thay] Profession: N/	Old school items ? A few questions regarding Old school items . Why do people pay so much for these items ? Could someone give me an example of one and compare it with a current one ? How can you differentiate an old school item from a normal one ?

Jan 31, 2010, 01:59 PM // 13:59	#4
Arduin Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: Limburgse Jagers [LJ] Profession: R/	With the release of Nightfall, Anet introduced inscriptions to fully mod a weapon. Items that drop in Prophecies, Factions, UW and FoW to date don't have an inscriptions slot, meaning the inherent mod can't be changed. The chance of getting a 'perfect' 15^50 inherent mod on say a Prophecies Mursaat Hammer is small. People will gave good money for such a weapon, although it is in no means better than any given hammer from Nightfall, with a ''Strength and Honor'' Inscription added. Bow with inscription and 'oldschool' bow. Last edited by Arduin; Jan 31, 2010 at 02:14 PM // 14:14..

Jan 31, 2010, 03:03 PM // 15:03	#6
Pleikki WTB q8 15^50 Weapons! Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: ???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]	Oldschool is mostly used for item Which is no longer possible to get As for Non inscriable Crystallines And r8 crystallines, those are no longer possible get you can get inscriable r9-13 ones tho.. And ppl like me. and collectors. Dont wanna use any inscriable items, and only non inscriable (oldschool) and are willing pay 10 x price of inscriable one for non inscriable version of same item. Its just for Nostalgic reasons, and theyre kind of cooler. Hope u understood someting from what i said __________________ -->My Buy Thread!<--

Jan 31, 2010, 03:31 PM // 15:31	#9
Arduin Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: Limburgse Jagers [LJ] Profession: R/	So we got Oldschool stuff that doesn't drop anymore (req 7 and unconditionals) Oldschool stuff that still drops Newschool stuff featuring the inscription system With only the unconditionals being better because they haven't got a downside, but otherwise everything is basically the same. Right? Last edited by Arduin; Jan 31, 2010 at 06:37 PM // 18:37..

Feb 02, 2010, 05:16 AM // 05:16	#17
Pleikki WTB q8 15^50 Weapons! Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: ???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]	From seeing if other ppl sell/buy em and farm those areas, if your intrested in knowing some "oldschool" item value, u should ask from the Price check corner. __________________ -->My Buy Thread!<--

Jan 31, 2010, 01:53 PM // 13:53	#2
Pursh Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Moscow, Russia Guild: [lion] IGN: Monk Elvara Profession: Mo/	An oldschool item has no inscription slot, whereas a "normal" item has one.

Jan 31, 2010, 01:56 PM // 13:56	#3
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	Old school usually refers to items from prophecies and nightfall, dropping without inscription slots. These are rare to get with perfect inherent mods (like 15^50). Sometimes people use it to refer to items that don't drop or drop extremely rarely (like req7 or req8 items from these campaigns).

Jan 31, 2010, 02:17 PM // 14:17	#5
Lusciious Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: I'm from Singapore but i live in Shanghai ATM Guild: Order of [Thay] Profession: N/	Right . If there isn't any difference, why would people pay 1500e + 10arms (theres an offer for a q8 crystalline old school in high end) for an oldschool ? when you can buy the normal one for much lesser ? Do values of old school items increase ?

Jan 31, 2010, 03:29 PM // 15:29	#8
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	1.they are rare and don't drop anymore 2. They are req. 8 and non-inscribable 3. all new stuff have inscriptions and usually req. 9 or higher

Jan 31, 2010, 03:37 PM // 15:37	#10
Homeri Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kamadan AD1 Profession: R/	+ oldschool items look so much cooler without those ''inscription'' words continued with like "Strength and Honor"

Jan 31, 2010, 10:32 PM // 22:32	#13
take_me Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe Guild: Country Roads [HOME]	+ most good skins only come "oldschool", so good inherent mods make them worth A LOT in some cases.

Jan 31, 2010, 10:52 PM // 22:52	#14
Lusciious Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: I'm from Singapore but i live in Shanghai ATM Guild: Order of [Thay] Profession: N/	How/who determines how much an old school item should be worth ?

Feb 01, 2010, 10:20 PM // 22:20	#16
Lusciious Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: I'm from Singapore but i live in Shanghai ATM Guild: Order of [Thay] Profession: N/	how would you know if there is supply of it in game ? or if there is a high/low demand for it ?

Feb 02, 2010, 12:09 PM // 12:09	#19
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	Have you read your own thread? Only r7 don't drop any more. r8 and uninscribables still drop.

Feb 02, 2010, 12:21 PM // 12:21	#20
Lusciious Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: I'm from Singapore but i live in Shanghai ATM Guild: Order of [Thay] Profession: N/	so you can still get old school items ? o.o i don't get this -.-